Hillary Clinton Gets Standing Ovation at Rick Warren's Church.
THIS ARTICLE on the Christian Post claims:"The former first lady reportedly won a standing ovation from the audience of over 1,500 Christian pastors, nongovernmental organizations and church members.
Here are several quotes from some of those in attendance at the Global Summit on AIDS conference where Hillary Clinton was one of the speakers:
“I saw a softer side of her that I haven’t seen before,” said Saddleback Church member Cindy Logan to WorldNetDaily. “She was very articulate. I liked her approach.
“I liked the fact that she’s been to Africa, she’s been with people who have been affected by AIDS, and she’s here because of her heart for people. I appreciated that.”
Another member of the Lake Forest, Calif.-based church, Tonie Kennedy, said inviting Clinton “was a good decision” after hearing her speech.
“It shows me she has her own faith,” Kennedy said, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, “and that she has an interest in what’s going on in the churches.”
THE ARTICLE from the Christian Post claims this will help her Democratic presidential candidacy:
"Experts have noted that Clinton has much to gain from a favorable reception at the Saddleback conference....A good reception at the influential megachurch might help Clinton make inroads among the evangelical voters."
(Thanks a lot Rick Warren!)
posted by kennyo at 5:50 PM
14 Comments:
Hi Thinkerup
Does this really matter surely she can't be any better or worse then your current presidant.
My understanding is that Rick Warren invited all the candidates to come speak at his church. Can't see much wrong with giving both parties a chance to be heard.
True Patrick, but if I am not mistaken Hillary was the only one invited to speak "in person", the others spoke via video feed... I find that interesting.
And we must keep in mind, this is a CHURCH, not a political platform. Why would a "minister of the gospel" allow the church to be driven for a political purpose?
Why would a minister of the Gospel ever allow any one in the pulpit who is in favor of the murder of unborn children through abortion? or someone who supports sodomy by being in favor of homosexual marriages, unions, etc.? Shame on Rick Warren for turning the house of God over to someone like Hillary Clinton. Ichabod! The glory has departed!
KCO
Why would a minister of the Gospel ever allow any one in the pulpit who is in favor of the murder of unborn children through abortion? or someone who supports sodomy by being in favor of homosexual marriages, unions, etc.? Shame on Rick Warren for turning the house of God over to someone like Hillary Clinton. Ichabod! The glory has departed!
KCO
If Hillary really cared about stopping the spreading of AIDS, she would tell the homosexuals to abstain from having sex.
Kenny, my understanding was that all were invited and only Hilary could make it in person. I haven't seen anything saying that the other candidates were only allowed to appear on video.
And I tend to agree that politics should be kept out of the church, but if someone's gonna open the floor to one side, I'd just as soon it be opened to both, you know?
I'm happy at least the he brought them in to talk about AIDS, though, instead of just flat out campaigning (although, let's be honest, that's what they all saw the event as...). There are lots of misconceptions about the disease (as at least one person has shown in this thread).
Patrick, I think you are right, they were all invited but only Hillary was able to be there in person.
Although I think it is a travesty to the glory of Jesus Christ to His bride to be used for politicians to promote themselves.
Why is it that the church allows itself to be a pawn of the world? We sell movies and books for them and now we allow avenues for their political agendas.
As a side note, if I remember correctly it was in Orange County that Bill Clinton first tried to appeal to the conservatives and appear as something he was not. I guess it just runs in the family and if it worked once why not try again
I'm with you on that, Kenny.
Tony, why would you consider Hilary Clinton accepting an invitation to come anywhere and talk about the AIDS crisis an attempt to appear as something she isn't? That doesn't strike me as an example of someone pretending at a conservative agenda.
Patrick, I am not saying that that the topic is a conservative one. My only thought, and this is only a thought, is that the attempt to seek a base in a fairly conservative county and also gain votes from the Christian segment seems much like what Bill Clinton did when he came here. So the comment was not to speak to the topic of the event but more to the seeming attempt to seek votes from a quarter that would not normally look her direction and the use of the church to do so.
Interesting discussion. Neil's comments are loaded with a distaste of the current president. I am always curious as to the why of that. Patrick's comments are also very tempting when he says about the aids connection and politic. I have copied an aids awareness groups comments on aids and hope we can further this discussion. 'How is HIV Transmitted? HIV is transmitted from person to person through the exchange of bodily fluids. While the HIV virus can be found in all bodily fluids of an infected person only these fluids contain a high enough concentration of HIV to transmit the virus:
* Blood * Semen (including pre-cum)* Vaginal secretions * Breast milk.
Modes of Transmission * Sexual - unprotected anal, vaginal or oral sex * Sharing needles - IV drug use, tattooing, piercing *maternal/Child – before, during & after birth, including breast-feeding * Blood transfusion before 1985 * Donor Products * Job Injury (I assume medical industry? or prostitution if one considers that a job)* Sharing of Sex Toys
HIV has not been proven transmittable by saliva, urine, feces, sweat, tears, vomit or mucus. *HIV is NOT transmitted through casual contact including: hugging, kissing, using public toilets, sharing eating utensils, pools or coughing.'
-HANK
Patrick said, "Tony, why would you consider Hilary Clinton accepting an invitation to come anywhere and talk about the AIDS crisis an attempt to appear as something she isn't?"
Hmmm. Hillary Clinton trying to appear to be something she isn't. Nahh, that would never happen :)
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